Rod Bigelow (Roger Jon12 BIGELOW)
This is research done by the Bigelow Society, published with the hope that it will lead to more research being done from these roots. see also Warren I Warren II Warren III Daniel Warren Mary Warren, born about 1624, came to North America at age six with parents. Bigelow Society's recommendation that those who are looking for their English ancestry should read not only the NEHG Register of Oct 1910 but also the sources listed on pg. 7 of Vol.I of Bigelow Society's Genealogy Vol.I....Mary's line of descendency is still in question, but in October 1988, Vol.17, #4, p. 75, his line is given back 14 generations. It does not match a line earlier found--in some places. The Richard Warren who came on the Mayflower had a daughter Mary who married Captain Josiah Hastings, Jr., 5th generation descendant from Thomas Hastings, who came from England to settle in WATERTOWN in 1634. Captain Hastings, Jr., was born 1760 and married Mary Warren above, who was then of Ashby.
Mary's line, as we have it at present: William 1, William 2 , Reginald (3), William. (4), John (5), John (6), Edward (7), Edward (8), John (9), Laurence(10), John (11), Laurence (12), William. (13), John (14), John (15), Christopher (16), William. (17), Christopher (18), John (19) of Watertown, and Mary (20) (Warren) Bigelow (Biglo). Often, wives do not compare.
Oct. 1988 FORGE: (starting with Reginald abv. as #3) m. Aldelia, d/o Richard de Mowbray.
son: William de Warren (4) m. Isabel, d/o Wm. de Hayden, of county Norfolk.
son: John (5) de Warren m. Joan, d/o Sir Hugh dePort of Etwall of Derbyshire.
son: Sir Edward de Warren (6) m.Maud, d/o Richard deSkegeton. They had
Sir Wm. (7),
Sir Edward (7).
Roger, Sir Wm. John all died without issue, so Edward inherited. He m. Cecily, d/o & Heiress of Sir Nicholas de Eaton. She had been divorced from Sir John Arderne in 1332.
Their son John (8), Baron of Stokeport, knighted abt. 1372, bur. Boton, Norfolk.
Only son, Sir John de Warren (9) m. Margaret, d/o & Heiress/Sir Richard Stafford/Wickham. She had a later 2nd m.
son: Nicholas de Warren (10) m.Agnes, d/o Sir Richard de Wynnington. Sir Laurence de Warren (11), m. Margery (also called Isabel), d/o Hugh Bulkeley/Owre,Shropshire.
Randle (or Ralf) (12),
5 daus., and
John de Warren(12). John (12) m. Isabel, d/o Sir John Stanley/Latham. John 1414 in Manchester area. 2
Sir Laurence de Warren 13 m.Isabel, d/o Robt. Leigh and his bro. John (13) m.Ann, d/o Ld. Stafford, then m. Margaret, d/o Wm. Booth. Sir Laurence's m was before 1458. We continue with lines of these two sons,
taking John first: He had an unnamed dau. and 3 sons: Richard (14) living in 1482; Henry (14) bec. a parson at Stockport; & John (14) fm. whom Warrens of St.Albans(England) descend. Sir John (14) named a clergyman John Warren, as his attorney. Who was THIS John Warren, clergyman and attorney to John (14)?
He was of Stockport, 6 miles from Baguley Hall! We wonder if this attorney had a family, including perhaps a son named Robert? This is only conjecture, so for the time being, no connection can be made to this Robert Warren. We continue with Laurence(13) brother of John (13) de Warren:
Laurence (13) de Warren and wife Isabel had at least one son Sir John (14). Do not confuse him with his cousin above (or with the attorney clergyman mentioned earlier.)
Sir John (14) m-1 Eleanor, d/o Sir Thos. Gerrard/Bryn, Lancashire. Of this 1st m. the Harleian Society, Ms.1074, lists following children:
Laurence, Thomas and Robert (could this Robert b. 1485, be Robert for whom were are searching? The great-great grandfather of our Mary? The time slot seems to fit, but ONLY the Harleian Society? And byu no other authority? Other sources list children of John & Eleanor:
and 2 daus.
Information on these is limited, but we know Laurence (15) m. Margaret and they had 14 children but none fit Mary's ancestry. John (14) m-2 Joan or Jane who had been m. twice prev. and surv. to marry a 4th time.
by Loring L. Bigelow, Lagun Hills, CA Forge...Oct.1988, Vol.17, No.4, p.75-76.